Survey shows campus carry conflict at Tarleton

By Christine Humphreys—

Special to Texan News

Additional reporting by Katie Armstrong, Phillip Mullen, Kaitlyn Shaw, Mark Smith, Rachel Tuggle and Renee Warner. The number of total respondents varies on each question, because not all people chose to answer every question.

Slightly more than half of the respondents in a poll of more than a thousand people who work, study or teach at Tarleton State University say they would feel safer if people were allowed to carry concealed firearms on campus.

Of the 1,076 people who responded, 57 percent said that they would trust their peers with a concealed weapon on campus while 43 percent said that they would not.

The poll was conducted using Survey Monkey online between Nov. 3 and Nov. 17 and was sent to about 14,000 students, faculty, staff and other workers on campus. The survey had a response rate of about seven percent.

A little over 42 percent said they would carry their weapon on campus while the other 40 percent said they would not. The remaining 18 percent said that the question did not apply to them.

One respondent said, “More [safe]. My reason for carrying on campus isn’t actually because I feel unsafe on campus. I feel unsafe while walking home from class, after I leave.”

Another also said, “I do not trust my students to have guns. Research shows that young adults are more likely to develop mental disabilities when they are living away from home for the first time and have additional pressure from being a student.”

The campus carry law was passed by the Texas Legislature, approved by the State Senate and signed into law by Gov. Greg Abbott early June of 2015. It takes effect to Tarleton’s campus on Aug. 1, 2016. While public universities cannot opt out of the carry law, private universities can. Texas Christian University just recently opted out of the law early November.

“I believe campus carry would make any campus more safe. In fact, I would feel better if more people carried a concealed handgun rather than no one be allowed to at all,” one respondent said.

Another respondent said, “It would make it less safe. The student age group are notoriously hormonally and emotionally driven and are not always prone to making the best decisions or thinking through the appropriate course of action.”

Of the 1,089 people who responded to the question about whether they had a CHL, 24 percent said yes while 76 percent said no.

Respondents who had CHL’s were closely divided about whether they would carry a handgun to campus when the new law takes effect. Of the 927 people who answered the question about whether they would carry a gun to campus, 42 percent said they would while 40 percent said they would not. The remaining 18 percent of respondents said that the question did not apply to them.

One respondent said opponents of the new campus carry policy are primarily motivated by fear and that this law “is long overdue. The pushback against the infringement must continue. Finally, the only objection is based either in fear, the feeling your question seeks to invoke, or the rejection of the free society the founders clearly constructed. By the way, whether I have a CHL and whether I intend to carry is none of TSU’s concern, but thanks for asking.”

Below are all the written responses to question No. 5 in the survey that states, “How do you feel that having concealed handguns on campus would make Tarleton more or less safe?”

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Below are all the responses from questions 1-6 in the survey.

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15 Responses

  1. Zach says:

    So the survey results are saying that 82% of students have a CHL? I highly doubt that number is accurate.

    • Battleborn says:

      No. The survey results are saying that 82% of the 927 people that answered that question stated they have a CHL. The survey was open to faculty, staff, students, alumni, and even the general public, if someone sent them the link. There was no Tarleton credential requirement. There were also no requirements to prove people claiming to have a CHL actually have one.

  2. Tusker 44 says:

    “I do not trust my students to have guns. Research shows that young adults are more likely to develop mental disabilities when they are living away from home for the first time and have additional pressure from being a student.” — Anon.
    Which then begs the question, how many of this instructors students are 21 years of age or older and living away from home for the first time? CHL holders must be 21 or older. This instructor is delving into “sudden expertism” which is exactly the same thing as the leavings of a large farm animal.

  3. Joseph Wilson says:

    By looking at the pdf of responses, most of the people that think it will make campus “less safe” simply put that, while people that are for it describe more about why. Maybe the “less safe” people should tell us why, or do you not have a good argument for that?

    • Texheim says:

      They can’t tell us why, it’s all emotion based for them

      • vbchuck says:

        That is an interesting response, because I am more used to people thinking exactly the same thing, except about the other group instead. Also, several people did in fact include more detailed arguments.

        • Austin Hime says:

          Please tell me what the “other people” are saying.

          • vbchuck says:

            If by “other people,” a phrase which I never used, you mean the people against having concealed carry on campus, they are saying:

            * Mass shootings are astronomically unlikely to occur in any given location or to affect any given person, and zero such shootings have been stopped by armed civilians, so it’s ludicrous to feel more secure because of guns. Mass shootings represent a tiny fraction of gun deaths. The vast majority of gun deaths are suicides, garden-variety homicides, or accidents. More guns on campus increases all of these.
            * “because criminals will obey the law” said in a snide and sarcastic way does not count as an actual argument
            * students should not be able to implicitly threaten their teachers or peers with lethal force
            * guns on campus increases the ease of crimes of passion etc and increases the likelihood that minor arguments will become lethal

            among other things.

            Also, as much as this is sure to rustle someone in this comment section’s jimmies I do not wish to get involved in an internet argument nor do I particularly care about either side of this argument so if anyone replies to this I will ignore it.

          • FactChecker says:

            When people make those claims, it just shows how misinformed they are. I’m not saying “you”, because you clearly point out you are merely expressing what you’ve heard and not that you share those views.

            That being said, the following statement made is 100% false: “zero such shootings have been stopped by armed civilians”.

            Then there’s this..
            “* “because criminals will obey the law” said in a snide and sarcastic way does not count as an actual argument”. While not an argument in itself, pointing that out is essentially grasping at straws in an attempt to discount the validity of the statement. The statement effectively raises attention to the fact that criminals or people who intend to carry out crimes, do not intend to follow any law regarding where they can and can not legally carry a firearm which is a fact that can’t be ignored.

            Many of the people arguing against firearms are forgetting, or were misinformed about the requirements for a CHL. The law only applies to those age 21 and up, which means these “first time away from home kids” argument doesn’t hold up as by the time students are 21, typically they are at least in year 3 or 4 of their education away from home.

            So many arguments made against the law are either completely false, irrelevant, or emotion (fear) based. The main point that those defending concealed carry can’t deny, though, is “guns on campus increases the ease of crimes of passion etc and increases the likelihood that minor arguments will become lethal”.. That’s a tough one to ignore.

            My favorite comment made was “The vast majority of gun deaths are suicides, garden-variety homicides, or accidents.” because it basically covers every gun related death without acknowledging that the rate of suicides is astronomically higher than the other categories which this law will not impact in the least.

  4. Tusker 44 says:

    “It would make it less safe. The student age group are notoriously hormonally and emotionally driven and are not always prone to making the best decisions or thinking through the appropriate course of action.” — Anon.
    Again, another bold assertion without the slightest pretense of any empirical data to support this type of hand wringing.
    I’ve seen 17and 18 year old Marine riflemen and Army Rangers do incredible things. They are the best of the so-called “student age group.” I’m so tired of people running down the next generation of Americans as if they’re a bunch of half-wits who only care about skateboards and video games. What a load of crap.

  5. Texheim says:

    Based on a lot of the comments it appears as tho a lot of the student body doesn’t have faith in themselves or their fellow classmates.

  6. Uncomfortably Close says:

    That last comment in the article was actually pretty scary lol. I wish i could afford private school

  7. staci says:

    As soon as I am able to afford the CHL I am going to carry. The thing is NO ONE is going to know that I even have it on my person unless something breaks out. and unless I know 100% that I will be able to hit the desired target (ie the threat) my gun wont come out. You have to think of things from the perspective of the person breaking the law, when they go on a shooting rampage (which are becoming more and more common) they want to take out as many people as they can. Do you think that they are going to pick a place where it is known that people are able to carry??? NO, they are going to pick gun free zones, because the likely hood of someone carrying is slim to none! Gun free zones are not safe zones they are targets! I will carry with the hopes that I will NEVER have to use my gun, but I will carry so that I am never completely helpless! Which means every few years I will have to go in and re-qualify in order to keep said licences! Its not like a driver licences where you take the drivers test once and then do not ever have to prove that you can still safely drive. I am for this 100%!

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